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We have a club that is celebrating a 25th year anniversary. They asked if we had any suggestions for ideas that would make their meeting a fun celebration.

I told them I'd ask you guys.

Anybody got any ideas you can share with them? I know there are some of you that have a lot of fun with club celebrations.

Thanks in advance. They are very excited to hear any ideas or suggestions you might have.

Laurie Frederiksen
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go to their favorite non Profit and visit them find out what they would do with a check and give them a check for some of their profit over the years like a $1000. It might bring in new members and they would feel great about making money for their favorite charity.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
We have a club that is celebrating a 25th year anniversary. They asked if we had any suggestions for ideas that would make their meeting a fun celebration.

I told them I'd ask you guys.

Anybody got any ideas you can share with them? I know there are some of you that have a lot of fun with club celebrations.

Thanks in advance. They are very excited to hear any ideas or suggestions you might have.

Laurie Frederiksen
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I look at this from an entirely different viewpoint. I would plan a great party, dinner, banquet or even, thinking big a cruise paid for out of the treasury. Certainly some of the members are charter members and have been loyal over the years. An investment club is not set up or has a mission to support causes. It is set up to provide investment education, socialization and lastly to provide growth in your investment. So after twenty five years give yourself a payback for your dedication hard work and loyalty to your membership.
Jack


On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Herb Lemcool <hlemcool@gmail.com> wrote:

go to their favorite non Profit and visit them find out what they would do with a check and give them a check for some of their profit over the years like a $1000.  It might bring in new members and they would feel great about making money for their favorite charity.


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
We have a club that is celebrating a 25th year anniversary.  They asked if we had any suggestions for ideas that would make their meeting a fun celebration.

I told them I'd ask you guys.

Anybody got any ideas you can share with them?  I know there are some of you that have a lot of fun with club celebrations.

Thanks in advance.  They are very excited to hear any ideas or suggestions you might have.

Laurie Frederiksen
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we recently celebrated a milestone, passing the $75,000 mark. not
monumental, we were just looking for a reason to celebrate. began by
planning a visit to a fed reserve bank in okc. as it neared, the
contact person informed us that our scheduled, inflexible date
wouldn't work so we called the investment rep of one of our members,
and asked for a tour of their okc office, and he gave us a fantastic
talk about retirement and estate planning, and then took us out to
lunch! after lunch we had the ultimate tour of the OKC memorial
museum , given by one of our members who is also a national park
ranger, and had been assigned to the bombing memorial for 9 years
prior to moving to our community. we all went in a step van,had some
financial education, and a meaningful , bonding , if sobering lesson
on perspectives. it evolved on its own, by setting a date, committing
to an outing,

Deannie

On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:46 PM, Jack Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Jack
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> On Jan 8, 2013, at 8:25 PM, Jack Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I look at this from an entirely different viewpoint. I would plan a great
> party, dinner, banquet or even, thinking big a cruise paid for out of the
> treasury. Certainly some of the members are charter members and have been
> loyal over the years. An investment club is not set up or has a mission to
> support causes. It is set up to provide investment education, socialization
> and lastly to provide growth in your investment. So after twenty five years
> give yourself a payback for your dedication hard work and loyalty to your
> membership.
> Jack
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2013, at 6:51 PM, Herb Lemcool <hlemcool@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> go to their favorite non Profit and visit them find out what they would do
> with a check and give them a check for some of their profit over the years
> like a $1000. It might bring in new members and they would feel great about
> making money for their favorite charity.
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 PM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
>>
>> We have a club that is celebrating a 25th year anniversary. They asked if
>> we had any suggestions for ideas that would make their meeting a fun
>> celebration.
>>
>> I told them I'd ask you guys.
>>
>> Anybody got any ideas you can share with them? I know there are some of
>> you that have a lot of fun with club celebrations.
>>
>> Thanks in advance. They are very excited to hear any ideas or suggestions
>> you might have.
>>
>> Laurie Frederiksen
>> Invest with your friends!
>> www.bivio.com
>>
>> Become our Facebook friend! www.facebook.com/bivio
>> Follow us on twitter! www.twitter.com/bivio
>> Follow Us on Google+
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Deannie Rule
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Our club has done plenty of things over the years, I recommend you consider:
Touring a brokerage house. Find out how it works from the inside
Tour a local public company of interest to the club
We toured the Mpls Fed Reserve - also very interesting
Dinner cruise on a lake or river
Backyard BBQ with investment style games and "good" prizes (pd for by club) (I've got the games)
Have the club pay for a private webinar by a favorite NAIC or InvestEd director of your choice, or invite them for a weekend where you have 2 days of access to them for all kinds of education We did this twice. We paid for the airfare, meals. a daily flat rate, and hosted them at my house. It was a hoot.
We had Black Powder Keg Parties for 2 years. One of our members was an antique gun dealer specializing in black powder muzzle loaders and the like. We took members to the gun range and had a ball. Picnic afterwards Made for a great photo shoot for the annual report, too!
Poll your members. Find out what hobbies or special interests they have and figure out how you can incorporate them into your club activities. We have a big motorhome. We've used it to take everyone on a day trip to various places - a member's "up north" cabin for our annual meeting - tailgating at a powder puff football game played by another member, etc.
But the most memorable and most exciting thing we've ever done as a club is attend a national conference together. Whether you go to a BI Conference or an InvestEd conference, you will never find anything more exciting and educational. You will walk away believing it was truly a gift. And it's one that will benefit the club.
Lynn Ostrem, President
Crow River Investment Club
Thanks everyone for the great ideas. The club really appreciates your thoughts. They told me I could share some information about their club with you. I hope you'll join me on congratulating them on reaching this milestone!

We are Sterling Investment Club
located in the western suburbs of Philadelphia. About 26 years ago a
few of us decided we wanted to learn more about investing and had read
about NAIC in Money magazine. We decided to find about 10 women and
get the manual from NAIC and see where we could go from there. We met
for the first time in February 1988. We still have 15 members, four of
them are charter members. We just went over the $200,000 milestone
after suffering many ups and downs with the market but more
importantly we have learned so much about investing, although we know
we always have so much more to learn. In addition we have made life
long friends. Our evening meetings always end up with a wonderful
dessert where we know we could compete with the Beardstown Ladies. We
look forward to our next 25 years.


Laurie Frederiksen
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Apple stock is down.  What are questions that we should be asking ourselves and asking apple?  Can we expect Apple to continue to grow considering the competition that they are getting from other products?  Should we buy apple stock now?  Our ssg's don't help right now.
 
Amy Carlson


From: club_cafe@bivio.com [mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Frederiksen
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2013 9:52 AM
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Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Here's a Fun Question

Thanks everyone for the great ideas.  The club really appreciates your thoughts.  They told me I could share some information about their club with you.  I hope you'll join me on congratulating them on reaching this milestone!

We are Sterling Investment Club
located in the western suburbs of Philadelphia. About 26 years ago a
few of us decided we wanted to learn more about investing and had read
about NAIC in Money magazine.  We decided to find about 10 women and
get the manual from NAIC and see where we could go from there. We met
for the first time in February 1988. We still have 15 members, four of
them are charter members.  We just went over the $200,000 milestone
after suffering many ups and downs with the market but more
importantly we have learned so much about investing, although we know
we always have so much more to learn.   In addition we have made life
long friends.  Our evening meetings always end up with a wonderful
dessert where we know we could compete with the Beardstown Ladies.  We
look forward to our next 25 years.


Laurie Frederiksen
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Dear Amy,

Personally I find it hard to make 5 year predictions about Apple. I prefer to make judgements about sales growth, net margin and P/E for the next year. I use that to calculate a price I think would be possible within a years time and then compare it to the current price to determine if I think it's a buying opportunity.

There is a lot of big money causing wild swings in Apples price. Fine if you want to trade options, but unnerving if you just want to buy and hold. I think the price will finally settle out where the fundamentals say it should be.

I'm also thinking they might have a boost to their earnings in this next quarterly report because of the reinstatement of the R&D tax credit. They can take the whole years worth retroactively in this quarter and it wasn't taken in the comparable quarter last year.

Of course, these are just some things I personally have been thinking about. If I had a crystal ball it would be a lot easier. Everyone has to make their own judgements as they choose their investments.

Anybody else have any thoughts from their club discussions to share?

Laurie Frederiksen
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Greetings Laurie,
Our take on the recent decline on AAPL is based on the work of Edson Gould and has a technical approach to dealing with the slowly evolving fundamental picture, which is often revealed long after the fact. The chart below reflects Gould's Speed Resistance Lines with the conservative downside target of $312.53.

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What stands out is the fact that Apple (AAPL) has declined significantly below the $530 support level (red arrows) that was initially established, retested and then violated to the downside. All that seems to remain on the downside, before the next support level, is at the $422 range.

The current price action suggests that there is a lot further to go on the downside. And while $312.53 seems inconceivable, it should be pointed out that this exact downside target (relative to the prior peak) was achieved in the last major run-up on the stock from 2000 to 2007 (the last 7 year run-up in AAPL) at $117.28, as presented in the chart below.

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Another factor to consider, in the period from 2000-2007, is the percentage increase in Apple's stock price compared to the current run-up, as indicated below:

  • 12/19/2000-12/31/2007: +2,300.67%
  • 9/7/2005-9/21/2012: +1,361.28%

If we were to ask the question of what was the likelihood of Apple falling to $133.22 on December 31, 2007, we believe the chorus of Apple investors would say, "not likely, if ever." Similarly, we believe that, based on the current speed resistance lines, no one would expect Apple to decline to our conservative downside target of $312.53, let alone falling to the $235.02 extreme downside target.

While projecting current estimates into the future, AAPL seems to have a bright outlook. However, the current fundamental estimates have not taken into consideration the worst case scenario or legitimate downside risk. We've outlined the deceptive nature of certain fundamental attributes like low P/E ratios, in our article titled "P-E Ratios: Lessons From Conflicting Indications" (found here) from 1905 to the present, which, at times, can be contrary indications. It may be possible that Apple's prospects and fundamentals are merely reflective is ex-poste analysis that was acutely bias to AAPL rising to varying degrees but not falling by a significant amount.

We would not be surprised to see AAPL decline to the $422 level before a substantive rebound (retest of prior highs) were to ensue.

Who is Edson Gould?

"Edson Gould spent over 60 years working in and studying financial markets. Gould studied the arts at Princeton, engineering at Lehigh (from where he graduated in 1922), and finance at New York University. In 1922, after working for a short time at Western Electric, he joined Moody's Investor Service as an analyst and later was editor of Moody's Stock Survey, Bond Survey, and Advisory Reports. In 1948, he began at Arthur Wiesenberger & Company, where he developed and edited the well-known Wiesenberger Investment Report and became a senior partner. He also was Research Director at E. B. Smith (which later became Smith Barney), and worked for Nuveen."

(source: Market Technicians Association. Gould, Edson Beers, Knowledge Base. Accessed April 26, 2012. link MTA reference.)

"Market technician Edson Gould always laughed at the idea of having a significant influence on the stock market, but his predictions were the most precise around. He pinpointed major bull markets and prophesied bottom-out markets as if he had his own peephole into the future. But in place of a crystal ball and wacky off-the-cuff schemes, his were smart, intensely researched and time-tested theories that made him a legend in the investment community."

(source: Fisher, Kenneth L.. 100 Minds That Made the Market. Business Classics, Woodside, CA. 1993. page 320.)

Best Regards.

Toucalit Benton

www.newlowobserver.com

On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:
Dear Amy,

Personally I find it hard to make 5 year predictions about Apple. I prefer to make judgements about sales growth, net margin and P/E for the next year. I use that to calculate a price I think would be possible within a years time and then compare it to the current price to determine if I think it's a buying opportunity.

There is a lot of big money causing wild swings in Apples price. Fine if you want to trade options, but unnerving if you just want to buy and hold. I think the price will finally settle out where the fundamentals say it should be.

I'm also thinking they might have a boost to their earnings in this next quarterly report because of the reinstatement of the R&D tax credit. They can take the whole years worth retroactively in this quarter and it wasn't taken in the comparable quarter last year.

Of course, these are just some things I personally have been thinking about. If I had a crystal ball it would be a lot easier. Everyone has to make their own judgements as they choose their investments.

Anybody else have any thoughts from their club discussions to share?

Laurie Frederiksen
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