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Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.
Thank you,

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----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.

I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions.

In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)

Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)

Irina Clements
Treasurer
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
>
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
>
> Best, Kimberly

Linda...

Sit down, you're going to have a V-8 moment. <VBG>
Open the pdf file and print the return. Then pull the printed K-1 forms from the printed return, scan them individually to a pdf file in your printer/scanner, and e-mail them. Then remember to replace the k-1s into the return.

John

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Linda Mortimore <mortimore@mit.midco.net> wrote:
It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.
Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.

I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions.

In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)

Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)

Irina Clements
Treasurer
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
>
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
>
> Best, Kimberly


I have managed to help our club members learn to use Bivio Web Site. I spend time as necessary, instructing folks on how to view the website, get reports, file and review documents, etc. (we do have access to projector and screen for every meeting, though).

My club has progressed to be more computer-literate than some clubs it seems. We post monthly treasurer's reports / minutes / partnership agreement on the Web in Files area. Our members have been taught (multiple times!) how to use online tools to develop SSGs, etc. I no longer provide paper copies of any of our reports - members are expected to review them electronically. So for us - them reviewing and printing their own K1s is no big deal. I just post that I have completed the forms, remind them again where to find the documents, and they all (except for maybe 1) get their own K1s.

Also, please note that I may be the youngest member - age 66. So, it can be done with enough training and patience.

Curtis P. Meaux, CPA

From: club_cafe@bivio.com [mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Linda Mortimore
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:45 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: [club_cafe] Re: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's

It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.

Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.
I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions. 
In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)
Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)
Irina Clements
Treasurer 
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia
> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
> 
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
> 
> Best, Kimberly
If you use an Apple computer, you can save the document as a pdf and then e-mail it to the club member.  No need to scan.  I believe there are downloaded apps for Windows machines that will do the same, but I have on used the built-in Mac (Apple) version.

Thank you,
Roy Chastain
"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place."  George Bernard Shaw




On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:01 AM, John Munn <tetnanger@gmail.com> wrote:

Linda...

Sit down, you're going to have a V-8 moment.  <VBG>
Open the pdf file and print the return. Then pull the printed K-1 forms from the printed return, scan them individually to a pdf file in your printer/scanner, and e-mail them. Then remember to replace the k-1s into the return.

John

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Linda Mortimore <mortimore@mit.midco.net> wrote:
It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.
Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.

I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions.

In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)

Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)

Irina Clements
Treasurer
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
>
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
>
> Best, Kimberly



I save the form as a PDF. I use CutePDF.  Then I open it, spool to the pages where the individual K-1s are and print just that page, saving it as "MemberLastNameClubNameTaxYearForm K-1" and save to a folder.  Then I repeat.  I go to next page and print again as PDF.  To save time in naming, I go to the just saved file, click on it, and change the name from the first to the one I just saved.  (Saves typing).
Example
First Save <ClementsStreetbeaters2016FormK-1>
Second Save Click on <> and change "Clements" to "Jones".  Two files now 
ClementsStreetbeaters2016FormK-1
JonesStreetbeaters2016FormK-1
Third Save and so forth 
SmithStreetbeaters2016FormK-1
Etc,etc

(and yes, be careful you don't click on name and save one member's form K-1 as another's.)

Be Well. Irina Sent from my iPad

On Feb 18, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Linda Mortimore <mortimore@mit.midco.net> wrote:

It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.
Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.

I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions.

In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)

Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)

Irina Clements
Treasurer
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
>
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
>
> Best, Kimberly

Linda,

You can also open the PDF file of the Tax Return and PRINT single pages (1 for each member) - but, PRINT it as a PDF - that means changing your printer to "CutePDF Writer" or something similar.

(Just go to the page of each member's K-1 and print "current page" or use that page number.

That will save you having to pull forms from the full tax return and scanning.

Pam

From: club_cafe@bivio.com [mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of John Munn
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 11:02 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Re: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's

Linda...

Sit down, you're going to have a V-8 moment.  <VBG>
Open the pdf file and print the return. Then pull the printed K-1 forms from the printed return, scan them individually to a pdf file in your printer/scanner, and e-mail them. Then remember to replace the k-1s into the return.

John

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Linda Mortimore <mortimore@mit.midco.net> wrote:

It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.

Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.
I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions. 
In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)
Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)
Irina Clements
Treasurer 
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia
> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
> 
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
> 
> Best, Kimberly

I too find it's easier to just email the K-1 to each member. No matter what I've tried, my club members will not use our club site (and they're all computer savvy!). I'm ready to threaten to resign, but since everyone else has said they won't do the treasurer job, that would ineluctably lead to disbanding (which I don't want).

Yes, it's very easy to electronically send the K-1s from an Apple (Mac) computer. I can't imagine it's very much harder to do so on a Windows computer--you're simply grabbing the K-1 as a pdf file and attaching it to an email. So maybe google "how to attach pdf to email" or ask a knowledgeable PC person for help.

Finally, maybe I'm paranoid but I never send anyone's SS# in or attached to an email. I've been told by computer techies that email is very insecure (unless it's highly encrypted), and that one should never transmit sensitive data (e.g., social sec. numbers) via email. Just saying.



From: Roy Chastain <roy12@me.com>
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Re: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's

If you use an Apple computer, you can save the document as a pdf and then e-mail it to the club member.  No need to scan.  I believe there are downloaded apps for Windows machines that will do the same, but I have on used the built-in Mac (Apple) version.

Thank you,
Roy Chastain
"The single biggest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place."  George Bernard Shaw




On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:01 AM, John Munn <tetnanger@gmail.com> wrote:

Linda...

Sit down, you're going to have a V-8 moment.  <VBG>
Open the pdf file and print the return. Then pull the printed K-1 forms from the printed return, scan them individually to a pdf file in your printer/scanner, and e-mail them. Then remember to replace the k-1s into the return.

John

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 11:44 AM, Linda Mortimore <mortimore@mit.midco.net> wrote:
It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.
Thank you,

Sent from my HTC

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

I just skip the whole explaining thing.

I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions.

In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)

Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)

Irina Clements
Treasurer
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
>
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
>
> Best, Kimberly





I agree.  One of the values of bivio is that it's a hosted on-line app with the ability to set individual member privileges.  A key functionality is allowing members to access reports, club files and their individual Federal and State (some) tax forms.  The links and paths for these accesses are simple to understand and use.  I don't see how anyone could mess it up if given a 30 second meeting demo or two sentences of instructions in an email.  This is life today---- brochures, govt forms, warranty sign-ups, product instruction manuals, etc, etc, everything is on-line.  It sounds callous but if someone can't use a computer, the internet and a straight-forward app like bivio to get their own information, they probably shouldn't be in an investment club.


From: "Curtis Meaux" <cpmeaux51@att.net>
To: "club cafe" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 12:04:54 PM
Subject: RE: [club_cafe] Re: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's

I have managed to help our club members learn to use Bivio Web Site.  I spend time as necessary, instructing folks on how to view the website, get reports, file and review documents, etc.  (we do have access to projector and screen for every meeting, though). 

 

My club has progressed to be more computer-literate than some clubs it seems.  We post monthly treasurer's reports / minutes / partnership agreement on the Web in Files area.  Our members have been taught (multiple times!) how to use online tools to develop SSGs, etc.  I no longer provide paper copies of any of our reports - members are expected to review them electronically.  So for us - them reviewing and printing their own K1s is no big deal.  I just post that I have completed the forms, remind them again where to find the documents, and they all (except for maybe 1) get their own K1s.

 

Also, please note that I may be the youngest member - age 66.  So, it can be done with enough training and patience.

 

Curtis P. Meaux, CPA

 

From: club_cafe@bivio.com [mailto:club_cafe@bivio.com] On Behalf Of Linda Mortimore
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2017 10:45 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: [club_cafe] Re: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's

 

It may be obvious to most but how do you send send one K-1 from whole PDF of tax return.

Thank you,

 

Sent from my HTC

 

----- Reply message -----
From: "Irina Clements" <irina39@verizon.net>
To: <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Subject: [club_cafe] Explaining to members how to access their K-1's
Date: Sat, Feb 18, 2017 10:11 AM

 

I just skip the whole explaining thing.
 
I PDF each partner's Form K-1 and email to each, along with a copy of IRS K-1 instructions. 
 
In this way, I don't have to explain to members, and ensure each receives it..  AND avoids panicked calls on April 15th, regarding getting the form, explaining entry, etc etc etc.  (Yes, understand sending the SSN on form through email.)
 
Yes it does take PDF-ing and emailing individual forms.  Honestly much less trouble in long run.  And it seems more personal to my club members, several of have shared they like it, (and also like the sending of the instructions).  (Those with not much computer savvy do open emails and attachments.)
 
Irina Clements
Treasurer 
Streetbeaters Investment Club
Model Investment Club of Northern Virginia
 
> On Feb 18, 2017, at 4:54 AM, Kimberly Hazen <hazenfree@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> I got up early to get the club taxes done.  Yay me!
> 
> However, as a treasurer, I'm sure my view of the Bivio site
> is a bit different from our general members.  Can anyone
> tell me how to walk a member through the site and where to
> access and print their individual K-1's?  I need to explain
> it step-by-step to some members who are not very computer
> savvy.  Where does the "Access my K-1" option show up?
> 
> Best, Kimberly