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Filing 1065; USPS Certified Mail Tracking Incomplete
Interesting story: We had a couple whose return was rejected when efiled because someone had filed a fraudulent return in the husbands name.  To add insult to injury, 2 weeks later he gets a bill from TurboTax saying they did not get paid for the return he filed with them because the IRS rejected his refund request. The client then had to contact TurboTax to tell them he never filed a return through them.
There are millions of fraudulent returns filed every year.  There is a movement towards entering drivers license info when filing to verify identity but this information is available  online.
Note: the IRS and states use regular mail to contact people.  THEY do not call or email you.

Linda
Tax preparer 



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-------- Original message --------
From: ira smilovitz <ira.smilovitz@gmail.com>
Date: 04/11/2016 2:26 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Filing 1065; USPS Certified Mail Tracking Incomplete

Do not send another copy unless asked for it. The IRS computers do not take kindly to unexpected multiple submissions. (Think identity theft.)

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Dave Vandaveer <dave@rockisland.com> wrote:
I had the same tracking result in Salt Lake, but I had the green post card returned.  I too was concerned until the post card arrived.  I believe your suspicions are correct and your return has been delivered.

Being somewhat paranoid when dealing with the government, I would send a second copy and use the green post card this time.

Dave Vandaveer, Treasurer
Friday Depositors Investment Club



On 4/11/2016 10:28 AM, John W Ranby wrote:
I mailed the 1065 for 2015 to the IRS on April 4th. I did
not specify a return green post card this year (first time)
as the clerk said their on-line tracking was sufficient.

The tracking shows the envelope reached Salt Lake on April
6th and then "departed USPS Destination Facility" on April
6th with expected delivery at final destination (Odgen, UT)
on April 7th.

To date, there are no further details. I suspect the
envelope reached the IRS, and the postal clerk failed to
scan the envelope at delivery. However, technically I don't
have proof positive that the IRS received the 1065.

My question is which of the following options would be best:

1. Assume the envelope reached the IRS, and do nothing more
unless the IRS ever contacts me about a missing return; at
which time I can show the paper trail of timely posting,
supply a replacement copy, and beg to have the late penalty
waived. The "sleeping dog" approach.

2. Assume the envelope reached the IRS, but after waiting
for the 1065 to be processed and in the IRS computer system;
call them myself to verify the 1065 was received. (Hours on
hold waiting for the IRS to answer does not sound
appealing!) The "pro-active" approach.

3. Mail a second copy of the 1065 before April 18th with a
cover letter explaining why a first copy may be in the IRS
system already. My only concern with this approach is I
don't know how the IRS return entering system would treat
the second copy. Would a clerk check for an existing return
before trying to key in the second copy? If not, would the
computer treat the second copy as an amended return? The
"belt and suspenders" approach.

If you were to follow option two, any guess on how long it
would take to be reflected in the IRS computer system?

Thoughts?

Jack Ranby, Treasurer
Grants Partners Investment Club