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Selling all and starting over

I will be transferring out account at Schwab to Fidelity in Seattle. We were a transfer from TD Ameritrade to Schwab. Does anyone know of a contact at Fidelity in Seattle who has worked with investment clubs and can help us make the switch.

Amy

Its Relative Investment Club

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Sarah Cornwell via bivio.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 9:41 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Selling all and starting over

Margaret, We are in the process now of switching and Fidelity is wonderful about it. I can put you in touch with our contact there if at all helpful.

Sarah

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 9:28 AM Margaret Wentworth via bivio.com <user*25964300001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a similar situation with two of us being charter members since 1998 and one since 2005. Our percentage of ownership means if one of us oldies has to withdraw for whatever reason, it would trigger huge capital gains when enough stock is sold to cover the cost. The two of us who are older have decided to graually reduce our holdings by taking out smaller partial withdrawals of $5000.00 periodically.

I wish we had switched to Fidelity instead of Schwab, but since two of us are in our mid 80's now with our time in the club a matter of a few years, we are going the cash route.

Peg Wentworth, Women's Investment Network, Lititz, PA

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:05 AM Robert Shaw via bivio.com <user*27509400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Good answer!

We are at Fidelity and they are easy to work with.

Bob Shaw

CSIC



On Oct 14, 2025, at 8:26 PM, Lynda Feit via bivio.com <user*26876200001@bivio.com> wrote:

We are in the same boat, but we're just looking to reduce the total invested by distributing stock to those members who have the largest accounts.  We DEFINITELY do not want to sell stock for cash!  The tax bill for individual members would be way too high, and for some of our older members, they could end up with a much higher Medicare premium payment 2 years down the road. (IRS determines Medicare costs using a 2 year look-back at individual's taxes for premium cost for any given year.)  It's better if you distribute stock to members, then they can sell, or not sell, any time in the future, and take into account their individual tax situation for any year when making a decision to sell.  (Or they could never sell, and when they die, their beneficiaries would get a step-up basis for the stock on the members date of death.)

We transitioned from TDA to Schwab (like so many others), and then found out they wouldn't let us transfer stock to members, so we moved to Fidelity because they do.  

I'd suggest you consult bivio staff before embarking on selling it all; I'm fairly certain they can help you do a dummy trial withdrawal to see exactly what the tax implications would be if you sold it all.  At least that way, you'd know what the tax consequences would be for each member.

Hope that's helpful,

Lynda Feit

TERIC  

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 3:51 PM Michelle Gadberry via bivio.com <user*21289400001@bivio.com> wrote:

All - I know people will have definite opinions on what my
club wants to do, but I really just need to know the best
way to do this.  We are considering selling all of our stock
by the end of the year, disbursing everything and then
having a new "buy in".  We currently have some 20+ year
members and some fairly new members.  We have done various
disbursements over the years because we are a small club and
honestly none of us want to be responsible for a large sum
of money in this.  We would like to put everyone even by
starting over.  We know there will be tax implications.  We
don't want to distribute stock (even if Schwab would let us)
- we want cash.  What do we need to think about when doing
  this?  If we cash out everything in November should we add
  back in our "buy in" of say 300 per member (10 members) in
  December or should we wait until new year in January?  Are
  there implications in Bivio or Schwab to letting our
  account zero out for a month or two?  Thanks in advance
  for any and all guidance.
Michelle G, Central KY Investment Club

Thanks everyone for the feedback. Since all of our members actually plan to remain, I got good advice from Becky with Bivio to maintain at least some money in each person's account so the club isn't closed out.
Michelle

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 4:36 PM Amy Carlson via bivio.com <user*31169100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I will be transferring out account at Schwab to Fidelity in Seattle. We were a transfer from TD Ameritrade to Schwab. Does anyone know of a contact at Fidelity in Seattle who has worked with investment clubs and can help us make the switch.

Amy

Its Relative Investment Club

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Sarah Cornwell via bivio.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 9:41 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Selling all and starting over

Margaret, We are in the process now of switching and Fidelity is wonderful about it. I can put you in touch with our contact there if at all helpful.

Sarah

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 9:28 AM Margaret Wentworth via bivio.com <user*25964300001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a similar situation with two of us being charter members since 1998 and one since 2005. Our percentage of ownership means if one of us oldies has to withdraw for whatever reason, it would trigger huge capital gains when enough stock is sold to cover the cost. The two of us who are older have decided to graually reduce our holdings by taking out smaller partial withdrawals of $5000.00 periodically.

I wish we had switched to Fidelity instead of Schwab, but since two of us are in our mid 80's now with our time in the club a matter of a few years, we are going the cash route.

Peg Wentworth, Women's Investment Network, Lititz, PA

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:05 AM Robert Shaw via bivio.com <user*27509400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Good answer!

We are at Fidelity and they are easy to work with.

Bob Shaw

CSIC



On Oct 14, 2025, at 8:26 PM, Lynda Feit via bivio.com <user*26876200001@bivio.com> wrote:

We are in the same boat, but we're just looking to reduce the total invested by distributing stock to those members who have the largest accounts. We DEFINITELY do not want to sell stock for cash! The tax bill for individual members would be way too high, and for some of our older members, they could end up with a much higher Medicare premium payment 2 years down the road. (IRS determines Medicare costs using a 2 year look-back at individual's taxes for premium cost for any given year.) It's better if you distribute stock to members, then they can sell, or not sell, any time in the future, and take into account their individual tax situation for any year when making a decision to sell. (Or they could never sell, and when they die, their beneficiaries would get a step-up basis for the stock on the members date of death.)

We transitioned from TDA to Schwab (like so many others), and then found out they wouldn't let us transfer stock to members, so we moved to Fidelity because they do.

I'd suggest you consult bivio staff before embarking on selling it all; I'm fairly certain they can help you do a dummy trial withdrawal to see exactly what the tax implications would be if you sold it all. At least that way, you'd know what the tax consequences would be for each member.

Hope that's helpful,

Lynda Feit

TERIC

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 3:51 PM Michelle Gadberry via bivio.com <user*21289400001@bivio.com> wrote:

All - I know people will have definite opinions on what my
club wants to do, but I really just need to know the best
way to do this. We are considering selling all of our stock
by the end of the year, disbursing everything and then
having a new "buy in". We currently have some 20+ year
members and some fairly new members. We have done various
disbursements over the years because we are a small club and
honestly none of us want to be responsible for a large sum
of money in this. We would like to put everyone even by
starting over. We know there will be tax implications. We
don't want to distribute stock (even if Schwab would let us)
- we want cash. What do we need to think about when doing
this? If we cash out everything in November should we add
back in our "buy in" of say 300 per member (10 members) in
December or should we wait until new year in January? Are
there implications in Bivio or Schwab to letting our
account zero out for a month or two? Thanks in advance
for any and all guidance.
Michelle G, Central KY Investment Club

I will also be cautious about wash sales, Ira. Thank you for the reminder about that.

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 5:22 PM Michelle Gadberry <mg7620@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks everyone for the feedback. Since all of our members actually plan to remain, I got good advice from Becky with Bivio to maintain at least some money in each person's account so the club isn't closed out.
Michelle

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 4:36 PM Amy Carlson via bivio.com <user*31169100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I will be transferring out account at Schwab to Fidelity in Seattle. We were a transfer from TD Ameritrade to Schwab. Does anyone know of a contact at Fidelity in Seattle who has worked with investment clubs and can help us make the switch.

Amy

Its Relative Investment Club

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Sarah Cornwell via bivio.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 9:41 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Selling all and starting over

Margaret, We are in the process now of switching and Fidelity is wonderful about it. I can put you in touch with our contact there if at all helpful.

Sarah

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 9:28 AM Margaret Wentworth via bivio.com <user*25964300001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi all,

We have a similar situation with two of us being charter members since 1998 and one since 2005. Our percentage of ownership means if one of us oldies has to withdraw for whatever reason, it would trigger huge capital gains when enough stock is sold to cover the cost. The two of us who are older have decided to graually reduce our holdings by taking out smaller partial withdrawals of $5000.00 periodically.

I wish we had switched to Fidelity instead of Schwab, but since two of us are in our mid 80's now with our time in the club a matter of a few years, we are going the cash route.

Peg Wentworth, Women's Investment Network, Lititz, PA

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:05 AM Robert Shaw via bivio.com <user*27509400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Good answer!

We are at Fidelity and they are easy to work with.

Bob Shaw

CSIC



On Oct 14, 2025, at 8:26 PM, Lynda Feit via bivio.com <user*26876200001@bivio.com> wrote:

We are in the same boat, but we're just looking to reduce the total invested by distributing stock to those members who have the largest accounts. We DEFINITELY do not want to sell stock for cash! The tax bill for individual members would be way too high, and for some of our older members, they could end up with a much higher Medicare premium payment 2 years down the road. (IRS determines Medicare costs using a 2 year look-back at individual's taxes for premium cost for any given year.) It's better if you distribute stock to members, then they can sell, or not sell, any time in the future, and take into account their individual tax situation for any year when making a decision to sell. (Or they could never sell, and when they die, their beneficiaries would get a step-up basis for the stock on the members date of death.)

We transitioned from TDA to Schwab (like so many others), and then found out they wouldn't let us transfer stock to members, so we moved to Fidelity because they do.

I'd suggest you consult bivio staff before embarking on selling it all; I'm fairly certain they can help you do a dummy trial withdrawal to see exactly what the tax implications would be if you sold it all. At least that way, you'd know what the tax consequences would be for each member.

Hope that's helpful,

Lynda Feit

TERIC

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 3:51 PM Michelle Gadberry via bivio.com <user*21289400001@bivio.com> wrote:

All - I know people will have definite opinions on what my
club wants to do, but I really just need to know the best
way to do this. We are considering selling all of our stock
by the end of the year, disbursing everything and then
having a new "buy in". We currently have some 20+ year
members and some fairly new members. We have done various
disbursements over the years because we are a small club and
honestly none of us want to be responsible for a large sum
of money in this. We would like to put everyone even by
starting over. We know there will be tax implications. We
don't want to distribute stock (even if Schwab would let us)
- we want cash. What do we need to think about when doing
this? If we cash out everything in November should we add
back in our "buy in" of say 300 per member (10 members) in
December or should we wait until new year in January? Are
there implications in Bivio or Schwab to letting our
account zero out for a month or two? Thanks in advance
for any and all guidance.
Michelle G, Central KY Investment Club

I know an Angle in Fidelity Support, here name Amy Byrd.  She is located in Florida at 800-756-0128 at the Fidelity Service Support Group (ironically @ (SSG)) ext 47618. She has gone above and beyond to help me and my Clubs. Please tell her I said help and recommend her!!!

Larry Reno 
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement--Mark Twain
Stay positive....Test negative!!


On Wednesday, October 15, 2025 at 04:36:48 PM EDT, Amy Carlson via bivio.com <user*31169100001@bivio.com> wrote:


I will be transferring out account at Schwab to Fidelity in Seattle.  We were a transfer from TD Ameritrade to Schwab.  Does anyone know of a contact at Fidelity in Seattle who has worked with investment clubs and can help us make the switch. 

Amy

Its Relative Investment Club

 

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Sarah Cornwell via bivio.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2025 9:41 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Selling all and starting over

 

Margaret, We are in the process now of switching and Fidelity is wonderful about it. I can put you in touch with our contact there if at all helpful.

 

Sarah

 

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 9:28AM Margaret Wentworth via bivio.com <user*25964300001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi all,

 

We have a similar situation with two of us being charter members since 1998 and one since 2005. Our percentage of ownership means if one of us oldies has to withdraw for whatever reason, it would trigger huge capital gains when enough stock is sold to cover the cost. The two of us who are older have decided to graually reduce our holdings by taking out smaller partial withdrawals of $5000.00 periodically.

I wish we had switched to Fidelity instead of Schwab, but since two of us are in our mid 80's now with our time in the club a matter of a few years, we are going the cash route.

 

Peg Wentworth, Women's Investment Network, Lititz, PA

 

On Wed, Oct 15, 2025 at 6:05AM Robert Shaw via bivio.com <user*27509400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Good answer!

 

We are at Fidelity and they are easy to work with.

 

Bob Shaw

CSIC



On Oct 14, 2025, at 8:26PM, Lynda Feit via bivio.com <user*26876200001@bivio.com> wrote:

 

We are in the same boat, but we're just looking to reduce the total invested by distributing stock to those members who have the largest accounts.  We DEFINITELY do not want to sell stock for cash!  The tax bill for individual members would be way too high, and for some of our older members, they could end up with a much higher Medicare premium payment 2 years down the road. (IRS determines Medicare costs using a 2 year look-back at individual's taxes for premium cost for any given year.)  It's better if you distribute stock to members, then they can sell, or not sell, any time in the future, and take into account their individual tax situation for any year when making a decision to sell.  (Or they could never sell, and when they die, their beneficiaries would get a step-up basis for the stock on the members date of death.)

 

We transitioned from TDA to Schwab (like so many others), and then found out they wouldn't let us transfer stock to members, so we moved to Fidelity because they do.  

 

I'd suggest you consult bivio staff before embarking on selling it all; I'm fairly certain they can help you do a dummy trial withdrawal to see exactly what the tax implications would be if you sold it all.  At least that way, you'd know what the tax consequences would be for each member.

 

Hope that's helpful,

Lynda Feit

TERIC  

 

On Tue, Oct 14, 2025 at 3:51PM Michelle Gadberry via bivio.com <user*21289400001@bivio.com> wrote:

All - I know people will have definite opinions on what my
club wants to do, but I really just need to know the best
way to do this.  We are considering selling all of our stock
by the end of the year, disbursing everything and then
having a new "buy in".  We currently have some 20+ year
members and some fairly new members.  We have done various
disbursements over the years because we are a small club and
honestly none of us want to be responsible for a large sum
of money in this.  We would like to put everyone even by
starting over.  We know there will be tax implications.  We
don't want to distribute stock (even if Schwab would let us)
- we want cash.  What do we need to think about when doing
  this?  If we cash out everything in November should we add
  back in our "buy in" of say 300 per member (10 members) in
  December or should we wait until new year in January?  Are
  there implications in Bivio or Schwab to letting our
  account zero out for a month or two?  Thanks in advance
  for any and all guidance.
Michelle G, Central KY Investment Club

 

Regarding Randy Purvis's comment about the 50% rule. Read
the IRS notice that the rule was eliminated for tax years
after 31 December 2017.

https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/questions-and-answers-about-technical-terminations-internal-revenue-code-irc-sec-708#:~:text=Q2.%20What%20changes%20made
Thanks John! Good info.

Randy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2025, at 1:28 AM, John W Ranby Trustee PGM Cariboo Trust via bivio.com <user*15792700001@bivio.com> wrote:
>
> Regarding Randy Purvis's comment about the 50% rule. Read
> the IRS notice that the rule was eliminated for tax years
> after 31 December 2017.
>
> https://www.irs.gov/newsroom/questions-and-answers-about-technical-terminations-internal-revenue-code-irc-sec-708#:~:text=Q2.%20What%20changes%20made