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Looks like I should have been buying my son a share of stock every time I bought him a gadget::

From $400K Macs to 23K IPods

Of course if you are looking for trends, I will say his enthusiasm for exclusively Apple products has been cooling lately.


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I wonder what this is worth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform)

:)

Rob
I forgot about PDA's. I guess it is good I didn't buy the stock when he got a Palm Pilot. I always did wonder why a 5th grader needed a Personal digital assistant.

:)

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Rob Nagler wrote:
I wonder what this is worth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_(platform)

:)

Rob

Some other fantastic stock buys of hugely popular products:

Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
Altair Basic - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog

At the time of the Newton, of course, Apple was thought to be dead in
the water, too. Steve Jobs was not revered as he is today, having
been kicked out over the failures of Mac and Lisa. NeXT was a
marketing failure, too, although you are using the technology invented
by NeXT in your iPhone and iPad, and for many of you today, your Macs.

I just learned that the technology behind the iPod was invented by
some ex-Newton developers who went and formed their own company
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixo). Sun Microsystems bought Pixo in
2003. Apparently, iPods still use Pixo's operating system, not iOS.
Probably should have added Sun to the list above, since they
collapsed, too, even though they produced the dominant workstation and
server in the 80's, 90's, and part of the 00's.

So buy the stocks of hot products, and get out while they are still
hotter than when you bought them. :)

Rob
Next time someone asks when the growth cycle will end for a particular company, just give them this list.  But let's also add some others that made fortunes in the day, such as:
 
        Broadcast.com 
        Carnegie Steel 
        Standard Oil
        Berkshire Hathaway
        MCI
        Univac
 
Some winners, losers and head scratchers on the list and I'm sure there are more, but growth does not last forwver.  The moral of the story comes from a great investor, J.P. Morgan "I made most of my money selling too early.”
 
Mark Eckman
Great quote Mark!

Maybe the less successful products will have value as antiques some day.

:)

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On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Mark Eckman  wrote:
The moral of the story comes from a great investor, J.P. Morgan "I made most of my money selling too early.”
 
Mark Eckman

Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

Jack


> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Rip West" <ripwest@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I was the proud owner of an Altair in the late '70s
>
> Rip
>
> Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
> Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
> Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
> Altair Basic -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
> ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
> CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
> Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog
>
>
> Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

A roommate had one. My first non-calculator computer was this built from a kit:

http://oldcomputers.net/netronics-elf.html

Rob
I never owned an Osborne, but I did own an Imsai 8080 kit
computer. In fact, I still have it in a box in my garage.
For those who don't know what it was, it came out just after
the Altair 8800, was built from a kit, was accessed via
front panel switches (and later via a dumb terminal), and
could handle up to 56K of memory. It had no operating system
(DOS didn't exist yet). Everything that could be added to it
(memory, paper tape reader, etc.) also had to be built from
a kit.
Nope, but here is a wiki link to it.  http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html  The link has a timeline of the early computers which is interesting to look at. My first computer exposure was the Commodore Vic20.  My Grandmother had one.  She worked for Moody Institute of Science and she was the first one in my family who learned to use a computer. She was trained on those big old mainframes that took up a whole office floor. 

John Rice
ABODI Investment Club 
From: John Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com>
To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Cc: "<club_cafe@bivio.com>" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Buy the Gadget or Buy the Stock?

Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

Jack


> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Rip West" <ripwest@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I was the proud owner of an Altair in the late '70s
>
> Rip
>
> Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
> Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
> Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
> Altair Basic -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
> ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
> CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
> Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog
>
>


My first "computer" was mechanical. I remember having one of these when I was a kid.

Ira Smilovitz


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:13 PM, John Rice <rice.j1969@att.net> wrote:
Nope, but here is a wiki link to it. http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html The link has a timeline of the early computers which is interesting to look at. My first computer exposure was the Commodore Vic20. My Grandmother had one. She worked for Moody Institute of Science and she was the first one in my family who learned to use a computer. She was trained on those big old mainframes that took up a whole office floor.

John Rice
ABODI Investment Club
From: John Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com>
To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Cc: "<club_cafe@bivio.com>" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Buy the Gadget or Buy the Stock?

Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

Jack


> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Rip West" <ripwest@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I was the proud owner of an Altair in the late '70s
>
> Rip
>
> Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
> Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
> Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
> Altair Basic -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
> ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
> CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
> Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog
>
>



Or how about one of these?

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My first "computer" was mechanical. I remember having one of these when I was a kid.

Ira Smilovitz


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 7:13 PM, John Rice <rice.j1969@att.net> wrote:
Nope, but here is a wiki link to it. http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html The link has a timeline of the early computers which is interesting to look at. My first computer exposure was the Commodore Vic20. My Grandmother had one. She worked for Moody Institute of Science and she was the first one in my family who learned to use a computer. She was trained on those big old mainframes that took up a whole office floor.

John Rice
ABODI Investment Club
From: John Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com>
To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Cc: "<club_cafe@bivio.com>" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Buy the Gadget or Buy the Stock?

Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

Jack


> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Rip West" <ripwest@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I was the proud owner of an Altair in the late '70s
>
> Rip
>
> Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
> Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
> Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
> Altair Basic -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
> ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
> CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
> Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog
>
>




It was my first computer and I accomplished a great deal on it. The printer I used was a brother and weighed more than a Mack truck.

Jack

On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:02 PM, Rob Nagler <nagler@bivio.biz> wrote:

>> Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?
>
> A roommate had one. My first non-calculator computer was this built from a kit:
>
> http://oldcomputers.net/netronics-elf.html
>
> Rob
Thanks for the link. That is the computer I used to write efficiency reports, recommendations for medals and orders for officers assigned to me when I was Liaison Officer Commander for the Air Force Academy in the 1980 period of time. Not to mention many letters to the Academy, candidates, appointees and parents.

Jack

On Jan 28, 2014, at 4:13 PM, John Rice <rice.j1969@att.net> wrote:

Nope, but here is a wiki link to it.  http://oldcomputers.net/osborne.html  The link has a timeline of the early computers which is interesting to look at. My first computer exposure was the Commodore Vic20.  My Grandmother had one.  She worked for Moody Institute of Science and she was the first one in my family who learned to use a computer. She was trained on those big old mainframes that took up a whole office floor. 

John Rice
ABODI Investment Club 
From: John Ellison <ellisonjack8@gmail.com>
To: "club_cafe@bivio.com" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Cc: "<club_cafe@bivio.com>" <club_cafe@bivio.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] Buy the Gadget or Buy the Stock?

Anyone ever own and use an Osborne?

Jack


> On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:53 AM, "Rip West" <ripwest@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> I was the proud owner of an Altair in the late '70s
>
> Rip
>
> Commodore 64 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_International
> Hayes Modem - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hayes_Microcomputer_Products
> Pong - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari
> Altair Basic -
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micro_Instrumentation_and_Telemetry_Systems
> ZX80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinclair_Research
> CP/M - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Research
> Z80 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zilog
>
>