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Club portfolio date for paying withdrawing member?
Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
Gladys Henrikson
This date should be defined in your partnership agreement.

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> On Jun 12, 2018, at 8:40 PM, Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
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> Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
> Gladys Henrikson
Gladys,
Per our partnership agreement, the withdrawing member must submit his/her written withdrawal request to the secretary. If received between monthly meeting dates, the request will be considered received on the date of the next monthly meeting.  The members portfolio value will be determined on the next valuation date after that meeting.  For our club, the valuation date is 7 days prior to our meeting date.
 
Hope this helps.
 
Dick Lewis
GMIC 
 
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Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs?  Thanks!
Gladys Henrikson
There is only one correct answer - the date specified in your club's partnership agreement. Our agreement specifies the last day of the month in which the withdrawal request has been received in writing and presented at a club meeting. Regardless of what date your club chooses, the general practice is to build in a reasonable delay so that member's can't closely time their withdrawal to a sudden spike in valuation.

Ira Smilovitz

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 9:40 PM Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
Gladys Henrikson
Gladys,
The partnership agreement says that the valuation is based on the next meeting date after the request for withdrawal is read. So if the resignation is read at tomorrow's meeting, the valuation date is set for next month's meeting date. The valuation date according to our operating procedures is the last business day of the month, June 29. So the value of Heidi's account on June 29 will determine her account value for withdrawal.
That is the way I read it. Usually, at tomorrow's meeting, a committee is formed to recommend method of payment, cash or stock transfer, or a combination of both, and they will report their recommendation at the July meeting. The club can discuss, make changes and then vote on how to pay the withdrawal.
Jo

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 9:40 PM Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
Gladys Henrikson
This would be something I would think you would have spelled out in your Partnership Agreement. The Club I'm in specifies the valuation will be the last day of the month following the meeting where the member submits their withdraw notice. I don't know if that is common practice, but it has worked for us. Note: Our meetings are the third Friday of the month. If the notice is received later than that, the valuation will be as of the end of the following month.

Hope this helps.

> On June 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM "Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com" <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
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> Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
> Gladys Henrikson

This comprehensive presentation about withdrawals includes our recommended timeline for valuing and paying out withdrawals once a club receives notice of a members intent to withdraw:

Withdrawals

As others have indicated, you need to follow any terms you've set up in your partnership agreement.

It is recommended that you make payouts close in time to when you value a members account. The longer you wait, the more problems that can arise.

Make sure your club records are accurate and up to date prior to determining any payout valuations.

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On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:54 PM, BETH GRIMES via bivio.com <user*22991800001@bivio.com> wrote:
This would be something I would think you would have spelled out in your Partnership Agreement. The Club I'm in specifies the valuation will be the last day of the month following the meeting where the member submits their withdraw notice. I don't know if that is common practice, but it has worked for us. Note: Our meetings are the third Friday of the month. If the notice is received later than that, the valuation will be as of the end of the following month.

Hope this helps.

> On June 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM "Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com" <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
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> Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
> Gladys Henrikson

Thank you, Laurie, and all,

This presentation and your comments have been very helpful.

Gladys Henrikson



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This comprehensive presentation about withdrawals includes our recommended timeline for valuing and paying out withdrawals once a club receives notice of a members intent to withdraw:
As others have indicated,  you need to follow any terms you've set up in your partnership agreement.
It is recommended that you make payouts close in time to when you value a members account.  The longer you wait,  the more problems that can arise.
Make sure your club records are accurate and up to date prior to determining any payout valuations.
Laurie Frederiksen
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On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 11:54 PM, BETH GRIMES via bivio.com <user*22991800001@bivio.com> wrote:
This would be something I would think you would have spelled out in your Partnership Agreement. The Club I'm in specifies the valuation will be the last day of the month following the meeting where the member submits their withdraw notice. I don't know if that is common practice, but it has worked for us. Note: Our meetings are the third Friday of the month. If the notice is received later than that, the valuation will be as of the end of the following month.

Hope this helps.

> On June 12, 2018 at 6:40 PM "Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com" <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
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> Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
> Gladys Henrikson

Dear All:

I have not had time to review all of this thread.

FYI: Our 711 Club has met monthly since circa 1950 and has Articles of Agreement that spell out the answers to these and all other questions of note and that are signed by all members as new members come into the club. We typically have 20 to 25 members in the club.

We do not charge a Fee for withdrawal.

Simply stated if the withdrawal request comes at least ten days prior to the end of the month, the Club then meets on the second Saturday of the following month and decides what stocks to sell to obtain the necessary $$ and a check is mailed as soon as the sales clear. For a deceased member the same process works so long as the death occurs before the next Club meeting.

Other methods could work and should be in your Club agreement and read and understood by all.

Best Regards,

Leo Cardillo
Treasurer 711 Investment Club



On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:30 PM, ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
There is only one correct answer - the date specified in your club's partnership agreement. Our agreement specifies the last day of the month in which the withdrawal request has been received in writing and presented at a club meeting. Regardless of what date your club chooses, the general practice is to build in a reasonable delay so that member's can't closely time their withdrawal to a sudden spike in valuation.

Ira Smilovitz

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 9:40 PM Gladys Henrikson via bivio.com <user*34256700001@bivio.com> wrote:
Can anyone tell us at what date (e.g. month end following member's written request to withdraw?) a club should value its portfolio in order to pay out a withdrawing member? If there is more than one answer, what is the common/ best practice for clubs? Thanks!
Gladys Henrikson