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I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed.
I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.
Cindy Gerke
Cole's River Investment Group
25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:
@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS? This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,
Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
This answer is so vague. We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.
The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties. Not even due to Covid. I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020. I'm not doing this again...

Alessandro


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something? Thank you.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either. Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in. I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--
Fred and Beth Theiss

The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10. IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay. It is crazy, For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...
Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed.
I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.
Cindy Gerke
Cole's River Investment Group
25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:
@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS? This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,
Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
This answer is so vague. We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.
The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties. Not even due to Covid. I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020. I'm not doing this again...

Alessandro


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something? Thank you.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either. Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in. I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--
Fred and Beth Theiss

If you filed by March 10 each year and sent your forms Certified mail return receipt requested and still were penalized, there is something more to this story.

It doesn't make sense as you've stated it.

Laurie Frederiksen
Invest with your friends!
www.bivio.com

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10. IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay. It is crazy, For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...
Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed.
I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.
Cindy Gerke
Cole's River Investment Group
25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:
@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS? This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,
Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
This answer is so vague. We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.
The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties. Not even due to Covid. I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020. I'm not doing this again...

Alessandro


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something? Thank you.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either. Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in. I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--
Fred and Beth Theiss

Yes, I sent three letters, different months with a form, request for abatement. With proof, USPS Certified Receipt, that we filled by March 10th. The return receipt shows that they received it by March 30th.
The previous year we did file 5 days late, due to Covid. But, dealing with the IRS is a nightmare... Maybe they are overworked for their complexity and stupidity, And, everytime I called them via phone, if you get through, you're lucky, then they want you to fax them the 1065 and K1s as proof. I'm done!

Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:05 AM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:

If you filed by March 10 each year and sent your forms Certified mail return receipt requested and still were penalized, there is something more to this story.

It doesn't make sense as you've stated it.

Laurie Frederiksen
Invest with your friends!
www.bivio.com

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10. IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay. It is crazy, For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...
Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed.
I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.
Cindy Gerke
Cole's River Investment Group
25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:
@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS? This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,
Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
This answer is so vague. We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.
The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties. Not even due to Covid. I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020. I'm not doing this again...

Alessandro


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something? Thank you.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either. Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in. I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--
Fred and Beth Theiss

The same thing happened to our club last year.  They said we filed late.  We had the certified mail receipt, dated right on March 15th.  They didn't mark the forms received until March 30th

I tried to talk to someone at the IRS and was on hold for HOURS.   Finally a member working from home waited it out and was able to reach a helpful person at the IRS, and after sending the certified receipt along with a certified letter, the fee was removed and the situation was resolved.

Doesn't seem like they have a very good system in place...

But this year filing for the club looks like it is going to be a nightmare!

I wonder what lawyers and tax preparers are doing for their clients?

Jan

Jan Glenn

VP & Cashier

Citizens State Bank

Wyoming, IA 

563 488 2211

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Laurie Frederiksen
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [club_cafe]Late filing fine removal

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If you filed by March 10 each year and sent your forms Certified mail return receipt requested and still were penalized,  there is something more to this story.

It doesn't make sense as you've stated it.

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:

The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10.  IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay.  It is crazy,  For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...

Alessandro

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed. 

  I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.

Cindy Gerke

Cole's River Investment Group

25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:

@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS?  This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,

Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:

This answer is so vague.  We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.

The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties.  Not even due to Covid.  I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020.  I'm not doing this again...


Alessandro

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something?  Thank you. 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either.  Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

 

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

 

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

 

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in.  I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--

Fred and Beth Theiss

Congress has cut IRS funding repeatedly for decades. And passed budgets late so multiplayer continuing resolutions each year for decades so IRS can't hire phone staff.

The IRS has real people who will help you, but the phone delays are hours.

Contact your senators and representatives to encouage them to pass budgets on time, and fund the IRS for CSRs. Cutting taxes is a political no brainer promise, but we are all living the impact. (I dislike paying taxes just like all of you, but would appreciate Congress funding the IRS for CSRs for phones).



Best, Irina

On Feb 25, 2022, at 9:20 AM, Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:


Yes, I sent three letters, different months with a form, request for abatement.  With proof, USPS Certified Receipt, that we filled by March 10th.  The return receipt shows that they received it by March 30th.  
The previous year we did file 5 days late, due to Covid.  But, dealing with the IRS is a nightmare... Maybe they are overworked for their complexity and stupidity,  And, everytime I called them via phone, if you get through, you're lucky, then they want you to fax them the 1065 and K1s as proof. I'm done!

Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:05 AM Laurie Frederiksen <laurie@bivio.biz> wrote:

If you filed by March 10 each year and sent your forms Certified mail return receipt requested and still were penalized,  there is something more to this story.

It doesn't make sense as you've stated it.

Laurie Frederiksen
Invest with your friends!
www.bivio.com

Become our Facebook friend!  www.facebook.com/bivio
Follow us on twitter!  www.twitter.com/bivio
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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10.  IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay.  It is crazy,  For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...
Alessandro


On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed. 
  I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.
Cindy Gerke
Cole's River Investment Group
25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:
@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS?  This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,
Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:
This answer is so vague.  We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.
The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties.  Not even due to Covid.  I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020.  I'm not doing this again...

Alessandro


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something?  Thank you. 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:
It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either.  Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

 

LeAnn

Go Beavs!

 

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

 

[This email originated from outside of OSU. Use caution with links and attachments.]

I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in.  I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

 

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

--
Fred and Beth Theiss

Everyone is on extension.

Ira Smilovitz


I wonder what lawyers and tax preparers are doing for their clients?

Jan

Jan Glenn

VP & Cashier

Citizens State Bank

Wyoming, IA

563 488 2211

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Laurie Frederiksen
Sent: Friday, February 25, 2022 8:05 AM
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Subject: Re: [club_cafe]Late filing fine removal

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If you filed by March 10 each year and sent your forms Certified mail return receipt requested and still were penalized, there is something more to this story.

It doesn't make sense as you've stated it.

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On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 8:55 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:

The same happened to us 3 years in a row. We filled by March 10. IRS threatened to take action if we did not pay. It is crazy, For this reason we're disbanding our partnership...

Alessandro

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 1:16 AM cindy gerke via bivio.com <user*17338100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I mailed Club return Certified with returned receipt by noon on Mar 15. Received $2,500 penalty and form in Sept. Called IRS, Agent said she could not look up tracking, refused to check date stamp on envelope. I had to send tracking report and form. After 4 calls and 3 certified mailings and interest added, an agent just looked up tracking, took 5 minutes to remove penalty and sent club a removal letter using a form letter that said first late filing is forgiven, next paragraph said 1065 was not late and penalty removed.

I printed 7004 instructions say hours to complete but only only took 5 min. Mailing certified also.

Cindy Gerke

Cole's River Investment Group

25 years this month.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022, 12:00 PM Suwanee Money Honeys Investment Club via bivio.com <user*39017100001@bivio.com> wrote:

@Alessandro - Was it simply due to covid or was it due to some other unforeseen circumstances,you had to file late? Hence,resulted in having to be penalized by the IRS? This is our first year and I am really concerned.

Thanks,

Serge

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:53 AM Alessandro Squeo via bivio.com <user*8340400001@bivio.com> wrote:

This answer is so vague. We need some certainty on the date when these forms will be available.

The IRS is not forgiving late filing penalties. Not even due to Covid. I had to pay $2400 in a late fee for 2020. I'm not doing this again...


Alessandro

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:47 AM Beth Theiss via bivio.com <user*25682000001@bivio.com> wrote:

In looking back I see that some clubs have filed a CPAR?? Please tell us what that is and whether our small club of 10 members missed something? Thank you.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:38 AM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

It's not that bivio doesn't plan to get you your tax information before March 15, it's that bivio doesn't know if it can. There are massive late changes to the forms for this year, and the programmers are laboring to get the changes implemented. It may not provide any comfort, but the IRS won't guarantee that they can process partnership returns with Schedules K-2 and K-3 until March 20 which is after the regular due date. This is a situation, like COVID was in 2020, that is beyond anyone's control.

Ira Smilovitz

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 11:11 AM Headrick, LeAnn K via bivio.com <user*36019400001@bivio.com> wrote:

I cannot get the 2021 taxes either. Is Bivio asking us to file extensions because they don't plan to get us our taxes information before March 15th?

LeAnn

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From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of Iris Szelagowski via bivio.com
Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2022 7:16 AM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] What is wrong with Bivio site

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I had to change my Microsoft Edge settings from automatic to entering username and password each time I logged in. I was locked into Club Cafe and could not access the links I needed for reports and tax accounting.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 8:12 AM Stuart Lange via bivio.com <user*25028600001@bivio.com> wrote:

I just tried it and had no problems.

On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 7:30 AM James A Harvey Sr via bivio.com <user*18384200001@bivio.com> wrote:

What is wrong with BIVIO site ? Can not get any reports, no
2021 tax

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Fred and Beth Theiss