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Electronic Return Filing through Bivio
The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds. From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward. We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
I would agree with this.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:00:16 AM CST, Gregory Sperry via bivio.com <user*27879900001@bivio.com> wrote:


The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds.  From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward.  We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
I think that would be a wonderful idea.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 10:04 AM Karen Wilson via bivio.com <user*16610800001@bivio.com> wrote:
I would agree with this.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:00:16 AM CST, Gregory Sperry via bivio.com <user*27879900001@bivio.com> wrote:


The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds. From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward. We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
I concur, this may not have been a sensible business move for Bivio in the past, but conditions have clearly changed and hopefully they can consider electronic filing going forward.  I cannot see why it would not be worth a reasonable increase in cost for most clubs.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:13:08 AM CST, Lucile Sorrells via bivio.com <user*30762600001@bivio.com> wrote:


I think that would be  a wonderful idea.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 10:04 AM Karen Wilson via bivio.com <user*16610800001@bivio.com> wrote:
I would agree with this.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:00:16 AM CST, Gregory Sperry via bivio.com <user*27879900001@bivio.com> wrote:


The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds.  From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward.  We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
Agree. Our club has 27 members, Federal return is 300 pages of which we need 4 copies (one to PA). Postage was $38. Plus copies, plus envelopes, plus time.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 11:30 AM Daniel Williams via bivio.com <user*33673100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I concur, this may not have been a sensible business move for Bivio in the past, but conditions have clearly changed and hopefully they can consider electronic filing going forward. I cannot see why it would not be worth a reasonable increase in cost for most clubs.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:13:08 AM CST, Lucile Sorrells via bivio.com <user*30762600001@bivio.com> wrote:


I think that would be a wonderful idea.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 10:04 AM Karen Wilson via bivio.com <user*16610800001@bivio.com> wrote:
I would agree with this.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:00:16 AM CST, Gregory Sperry via bivio.com <user*27879900001@bivio.com> wrote:


The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds. From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward. We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
I would bet at least 90% of the clubs would e-file. Some won't because they had to have an accountant /tax preparer to do it.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 9:37 AM Edward Kennedy via bivio.com <user*23546400001@bivio.com> wrote:
Agree. Our club has 27 members, Federal return is 300 pages of which we need 4 copies (one to PA). Postage was $38. Plus copies, plus envelopes, plus time.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 11:30 AM Daniel Williams via bivio.com <user*33673100001@bivio.com> wrote:
I concur, this may not have been a sensible business move for Bivio in the past, but conditions have clearly changed and hopefully they can consider electronic filing going forward. I cannot see why it would not be worth a reasonable increase in cost for most clubs.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:13:08 AM CST, Lucile Sorrells via bivio.com <user*30762600001@bivio.com> wrote:


I think that would be a wonderful idea.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2022 at 10:04 AM Karen Wilson via bivio.com <user*16610800001@bivio.com> wrote:
I would agree with this.

On Saturday, March 5, 2022, 10:00:16 AM CST, Gregory Sperry via bivio.com <user*27879900001@bivio.com> wrote:


The expanded size of the club filing for federal taxes took
us by surprise but we understand that it is a new
requirement - our club's return has 129 pages and weighed
about 2 pounds. From past discussions of electronic filing
it's apparent that it's a significant effort for Bivio to
get set up as a federal provider but my club would be happy
to pay an extra fee to have Bivio electronically file our
tax forms going forward. We typically send our paper forms
certified mail with a return receipt and it will likely cost
upwards of $20 to send this year with postage and fees.
We would love to see Bivio consider this for next year -
analyzing the cost of development and support and come up
with a price and number of participating clubs needed to
offset the expense.
Has anyone come up with an answer to this issue? I am our club treasurer and had about 20 partners in 2021. 242 pages. In 2022, our partnership will likely exceed 50 partners. We are at 39 active right now. Sending in the 1065, including printing, postage, and paper is outrageous. Looking for a solution?
Oh my, what happened to increase your partnership so drastically?

Kim Potter
BI Brighton Model Investment Club

On Tuesday, March 8, 2022, 04:28:00 PM EST, John LoPresti via bivio.com <user*37617400001@bivio.com> wrote:


Has anyone come up with an answer to this issue?  I am our club treasurer and had about 20 partners in 2021.  242 pages.  In 2022, our partnership will likely exceed 50 partners.  We are at 39 active right now.  Sending in the 1065, including printing, postage, and paper is outrageous.  Looking for a solution?

Living in a state with no income tax, so no requirement to file state, but our fed is and has been electronic filing for years. I'm wondering why electronic filing is not available to everyone.

On Tue, Mar 8, 2022 at 11:27 AM John LoPresti via bivio.com <user*37617400001@bivio.com> wrote:
Has anyone come up with an answer to this issue? I am our club treasurer and had about 20 partners in 2021. 242 pages. In 2022, our partnership will likely exceed 50 partners. We are at 39 active right now. Sending in the 1065, including printing, postage, and paper is outrageous. Looking for a solution?
Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.
Ours was 422 pages....we UPS'ed it....if you go to the instruction portion on the 1065 form page, it gives you the address where to send it and with the tracking # it's just like return receipt


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacquelyn Anderson via bivio.com <user*38456900001@bivio.com>
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2022 4:00 pm
Subject: [club_cafe] Re: Electronic Return Filing through Bivio

Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.

I think some UPS stores do printing.  
Kim


On Wednesday, March 9, 2022, 04:00:53 PM EST, Jacquelyn Anderson via bivio.com <user*38456900001@bivio.com> wrote:


Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.

How much did it cost?

Peter Dunkelberger

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:07 PM Deanna Rumler via bivio.com <user*36314000001@bivio.com> wrote:
Ours was 422 pages....we UPS'ed it....if you go to the instruction portion on the 1065 form page, it gives you the address where to send it and with the tracking # it's just like return receipt


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacquelyn Anderson via bivio.com <user*38456900001@bivio.com>
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2022 4:00 pm
Subject: [club_cafe] Re: Electronic Return Filing through Bivio

Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.

FYI. I normally send tax returns by certified mail from the post office without requesting a receipt.
This year, I was told the priority mail receipt was just as good proof.
Priority mail is often the best way to send things, but I was told it would still take 3 days to get to downtown Chicago from my Philadelphia suburb.

On Wed, Mar 9, 2022 at 4:07 PM Deanna Rumler via bivio.com <user*36314000001@bivio.com> wrote:
Ours was 422 pages....we UPS'ed it....if you go to the instruction portion on the 1065 form page, it gives you the address where to send it and with the tracking # it's just like return receipt


-----Original Message-----
From: Jacquelyn Anderson via bivio.com <user*38456900001@bivio.com>
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Sent: Wed, Mar 9, 2022 4:00 pm
Subject: [club_cafe] Re: Electronic Return Filing through Bivio

Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.

I had mine copied at Office Depot. Very reasonable.

Sent from my iPhone
Jan Neuenschwander

> On Mar 9, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Jacquelyn Anderson via bivio.com <user*38456900001@bivio.com> wrote:
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> ´╗┐Can someone suggest a secure method and location (public place) to print the information because the state and federal returns total over 200 pages? Thanks for your input.