That's very frustrating.

We had a similar problem several hears ago. We couldn't even log in. I contacted the state by phone and also exchanged several emails. We eventually filed in paper with a letter explaining the problems we were having. Two years later we were assessed with a $2,400 penalty for not filing electronically. Ira helped us get the penalty abated.

So my advice is keep trying. Maybe clearing your browser cache will help. We eventually got it work this year after multiple tries. The https://state.nj.us in the run section worked for us. I think we also used https://www1.state.nj.us

Best regards,

Ty H.

On Mar 4, 2023, at 1:47 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:



Yes. And also tried http://state.nj.us as well

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 1:42 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Did you try "https://state.nj.us" in the run section?

Ty Hughes | 571-382-0700

On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:



Ira,

These are the problems I'm having trying to file electronically in NJ.

I start here in IE mode on Microsoft Edge (I know that because the icon changes to the old IE symbol):

New Jersey Partnership Tax Login (state.nj.us)

My user id and password pull up, and I log in. Next page, I select this:

Partnership - On-Line Services - Menu

Then the problems begin.

I've tried every possible exception website address in IE compatibility mode and typing them directly into the Java console (Security tab). I can't get past the Java issue that occurs when it appears to be trying to load last year's information. I've gotten a few error messages, but the last one that has me stumped is "ClassFormatError" - Truncated class file

This occurs after I choose to "Run" the application launching from http://www1.state.nj.us or https://www1.state.nj.us.

Do you have any tips for those of us who do not use Macintosh?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:56 PM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Please keep posting your experiences or send them to me directly at irasmilovitz@gmail.com. It's been very difficult to get the Division of Revenue and Enterprise Services to acknowledge that there are issues with their application. I've been trying to get the Division of Taxation to exert pressure on them.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:50 PM Dan Lapp via bivio.com <user*15604200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Microsoft has changed Internet Explorer Compatibility Mode so often in the last year, that it's difficult to rely on information found on the web.

In most cases, you can try this:

- Start Microsoft Edge, click on the three dots in the upper right, hover over Help and Feedback, click on About Microsoft Edge. This will update Microsoft Edge to the latest version.

- In Microsoft Edge, click on the three dots in the upper right, click on settings

- Click on Default Browser

- Change this setting: Allow sites to be reloaded in Internet Explorer Mode to Allow

- Click Add and add all variations of the website

https://state.nj.us

www.state.nj.us
http://state.nj.us

When accessing the website, if you are prompted to allow Internet Explorer Mode, click Yes.

Good luck,

Dan

Dan Lapp

New England Network Associates

Certified Microsoft Small Business Specialist

Certified Carbonite Cloud Backup Partner

508-662-5300

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of ira smilovitz via bivio.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 8:28 PM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] E-filing in NJ

Stuart,

How far did you get in the process and what was the issue when you couldn't go further? For example, did you get a message about javascript?. Did you get a blank screen? Was there an error message of some sort?

Let me know in as much detail as possible as I am trying to get some action between the NJ Division of Taxation and the Division of Revenue and Enterprise Services (who maintains the web application) to remedy the issue.

Thanks.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:07 PM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Thank you Ira. It's all accurate. I did try to use Edge in Internet Explorer mode, but it didn't make any difference. Going to try it on my Mac next.

Stu in Jersey

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:00 PM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Here's a message I received from another user:

--start quote--

To New Jersey's credit, the web filing system does retain all of the information from the prior year. Specifically, EIN, name, address, etc., as well as all of the partners data. So this makes updating and filing relatively simple once you get in.

The basic problem is that you must use Internet Explorer compatibility mode to access the web interface. Also, the instructions on the New Jersey webpage are not quite correct. Instructions say to add "state.nj.us" to the compatibility list. However, you must add the entire URL, https://state.nj.us.

The other problem is that Microsoft edge has been updated so many times that there are few directions on the web on how to use the current version in the Internet Explorer in compatibility mode. Earlier explanations do not work with the current version of Microsoft Edge.

--end quote--

I haven't verified this, but I have no reason to doubt its accuracy.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:46 PM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Has anyone tried it yet? I'm pretty browser savvy and I
can't get past the Java issues that exist on the NJ treasury
website. I've tried using Edge and Chrome, to no avail, even
following the directions included in the Bivio filing
instructions as well as on the filing website.

Stu in Jersey

You can use www.ieonchrome.com for free, but it will close you out after 20 minutes, which wasn't enough time for me to manually enter all of the member K-1s, so I just spent the $4.99 to be done with it. This should work on both the MAC and in Windows.

Stu in Jersey.

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 2:05 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

That's very frustrating.

We had a similar problem several hears ago. We couldn't even log in. I contacted the state by phone and also exchanged several emails. We eventually filed in paper with a letter explaining the problems we were having. Two years later we were assessed with a $2,400 penalty for not filing electronically. Ira helped us get the penalty abated.

So my advice is keep trying. Maybe clearing your browser cache will help. We eventually got it work this year after multiple tries. The https://state.nj.us in the run section worked for us. I think we also used https://www1.state.nj.us

Best regards,

Ty H.

On Mar 4, 2023, at 1:47 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:



Yes. And also tried http://state.nj.us as well

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 1:42 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Did you try "https://state.nj.us" in the run section?

Ty Hughes | 571-382-0700

On Mar 4, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:



Ira,

These are the problems I'm having trying to file electronically in NJ.

I start here in IE mode on Microsoft Edge (I know that because the icon changes to the old IE symbol):

New Jersey Partnership Tax Login (state.nj.us)

My user id and password pull up, and I log in. Next page, I select this:

Partnership - On-Line Services - Menu

Then the problems begin.

I've tried every possible exception website address in IE compatibility mode and typing them directly into the Java console (Security tab). I can't get past the Java issue that occurs when it appears to be trying to load last year's information. I've gotten a few error messages, but the last one that has me stumped is "ClassFormatError" - Truncated class file

This occurs after I choose to "Run" the application launching from http://www1.state.nj.us or https://www1.state.nj.us.

Do you have any tips for those of us who do not use Macintosh?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:56 PM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Please keep posting your experiences or send them to me directly at irasmilovitz@gmail.com. It's been very difficult to get the Division of Revenue and Enterprise Services to acknowledge that there are issues with their application. I've been trying to get the Division of Taxation to exert pressure on them.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:50 PM Dan Lapp via bivio.com <user*15604200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Microsoft has changed Internet Explorer Compatibility Mode so often in the last year, that it's difficult to rely on information found on the web.

In most cases, you can try this:

- Start Microsoft Edge, click on the three dots in the upper right, hover over Help and Feedback, click on About Microsoft Edge. This will update Microsoft Edge to the latest version.

- In Microsoft Edge, click on the three dots in the upper right, click on settings

- Click on Default Browser

- Change this setting: Allow sites to be reloaded in Internet Explorer Mode to Allow

- Click Add and add all variations of the website

https://state.nj.us

www.state.nj.us
http://state.nj.us

When accessing the website, if you are prompted to allow Internet Explorer Mode, click Yes.

Good luck,

Dan

Dan Lapp

New England Network Associates

Certified Microsoft Small Business Specialist

Certified Carbonite Cloud Backup Partner

508-662-5300

From: club_cafe@bivio.com <club_cafe@bivio.com> On Behalf Of ira smilovitz via bivio.com
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 8:28 PM
To: club_cafe@bivio.com
Subject: Re: [club_cafe] E-filing in NJ

Stuart,

How far did you get in the process and what was the issue when you couldn't go further? For example, did you get a message about javascript?. Did you get a blank screen? Was there an error message of some sort?

Let me know in as much detail as possible as I am trying to get some action between the NJ Division of Taxation and the Division of Revenue and Enterprise Services (who maintains the web application) to remedy the issue.

Thanks.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:07 PM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Thank you Ira. It's all accurate. I did try to use Edge in Internet Explorer mode, but it didn't make any difference. Going to try it on my Mac next.

Stu in Jersey

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 8:00 PM ira smilovitz via bivio.com <user*2883400001@bivio.com> wrote:

Here's a message I received from another user:

--start quote--

To New Jersey's credit, the web filing system does retain all of the information from the prior year. Specifically, EIN, name, address, etc., as well as all of the partners data. So this makes updating and filing relatively simple once you get in.

The basic problem is that you must use Internet Explorer compatibility mode to access the web interface. Also, the instructions on the New Jersey webpage are not quite correct. Instructions say to add "state.nj.us" to the compatibility list. However, you must add the entire URL, https://state.nj.us.

The other problem is that Microsoft edge has been updated so many times that there are few directions on the web on how to use the current version in the Internet Explorer in compatibility mode. Earlier explanations do not work with the current version of Microsoft Edge.

--end quote--

I haven't verified this, but I have no reason to doubt its accuracy.

Ira Smilovitz

On Mon, Feb 27, 2023 at 7:46 PM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Has anyone tried it yet? I'm pretty browser savvy and I
can't get past the Java issues that exist on the NJ treasury
website. I've tried using Edge and Chrome, to no avail, even
following the directions included in the Bivio filing
instructions as well as on the filing website.

Stu in Jersey

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.

I have the same exceptions as you do....does not work for me. I cleared the cache and made sure that Java was updated. Still get the same error:

ClassFormatError

Truncated class file

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:21 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.

I am still unable to electronically file for NJ. I have tried all the workarounds suggested by the group here.

Ira, are you able to file?

Any suggestions?

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:13 AM Boyd Hinds <abhinds3@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the same exceptions as you do....does not work for me. I cleared the cache and made sure that Java was updated. Still get the same error:

ClassFormatError

Truncated class file

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:21 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.

Did you try www.ieonchrome.com using IE10 as your browser in Chrome? This is the only way I know multiple people have been successful.Good luck!

Stu

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 7:47 AM Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I am still unable to electronically file for NJ. I have tried all the workarounds suggested by the group here.

Ira, are you able to file?

Any suggestions?

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:13 AM Boyd Hinds <abhinds3@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the same exceptions as you do....does not work for me. I cleared the cache and made sure that Java was updated. Still get the same error:

ClassFormatError

Truncated class file

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:21 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.

Boyd,

I was able to use the www.ieonchrome.com website to submit my NJ partnership return. However, I didn't launch chrome on my computer. I am a MAC user and I was using Version 15.3 of Safari. Also, I selected IE9, not IE10 in the selection box.

Good Luck.

Paul Savarese

On Mar 28, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi Stu,

I did try that on two different computers. Launched chrome, went to that web site (www.ieonchrome.com) and typed in the NJ business tax URL in the IE10 mode. I'm able to log in successfully at the NJ tax site, but when it tries to retrieve the past year's information, I get the same error message:

Java Plug-in 11.73.2.02
Using JRE version 1.8.0_73-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\GW_7OzSd1lBaLlkpT7Cj
----------------------------------------------------
c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system and deployment properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
in here :)
showMessageDialog0

Ira, perhaps I can hire you to file the return, assuming you have been able to do so yourself?

Virus-free.www.avg.com

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:41 AM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Did you try www.ieonchrome.com using IE10 as your browser in Chrome? This is the only way I know multiple people have been successful.Good luck!

Stu

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 7:47 AM Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I am still unable to electronically file for NJ. I have tried all the workarounds suggested by the group here.

Ira, are you able to file?

Any suggestions?

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:13 AM Boyd Hinds <abhinds3@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the same exceptions as you do....does not work for me. I cleared the cache and made sure that Java was updated. Still get the same error:

ClassFormatError

Truncated class file

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:21 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.



Paul,

Thank you for the suggestion to use IE9.    I used that, and it worked!

I used IEonChrome in the Edge browser (didn't have to be Chrome) but the key for me was using the IE9 setting for logging in to the NJ website.

Crazy that we have to go through all this.

-B

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 1:12 PM PAUL SAVARESE via bivio.com <user*28508500001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd,

I was able to use the www.ieonchrome.com website to submit my NJ partnership return.  However, I didn't launch chrome on my computer.  I am a MAC user and I was using Version 15.3 of Safari.  Also, I selected IE9, not IE10 in the selection box.

Good Luck.

Paul Savarese

On Mar 28, 2023, at 1:05 PM, Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:

Hi Stu,

I did try that on two different computers.   Launched chrome, went to that web site (www.ieonchrome.com) and typed in the NJ business tax URL in the IE10 mode.  I'm able to log in successfully at the NJ tax site, but when it tries to retrieve the past year's information, I get the same error message:

Java Plug-in 11.73.2.02
Using JRE version 1.8.0_73-b02 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\GW_7OzSd1lBaLlkpT7Cj
----------------------------------------------------
c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
l:   dump classloader list
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system and deployment properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
x:   clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
in here :)
showMessageDialog0

Ira, perhaps I can hire you to file the return, assuming you have been able to do so yourself?

Virus-free.www.avg.com

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 11:41 AM Stuart Weissman via bivio.com <user*15236200001@bivio.com> wrote:

Did you try www.ieonchrome.com using IE10 as your browser in Chrome? This is the only way I know multiple people have been successful.Good luck!

Stu

On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 7:47 AM Boyd Hinds via bivio.com <user*3773100001@bivio.com> wrote:

I am still unable to electronically file for NJ.  I have tried all the workarounds suggested by the group here.

Ira, are you able to file?

Any suggestions?

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:13 AM Boyd Hinds <abhinds3@gmail.com> wrote:

I have the same exceptions as you do....does not work for me.   I cleared the cache and made sure that Java was updated.   Still get the same error:

ClassFormatError

Truncated class file

On Sat, Mar 4, 2023 at 11:21 PM Ty Hughes via bivio.com <user*3139700001@bivio.com> wrote:

Boyd:

Here is a screenshot of my settings in Microsoft Edge for Internet Explorer compatibility.

You get to the settings from the little gear in the lower right corner of the browser page.

I went through so many attempts I can't recall whether I added the third and fourth URLs under Internet Explorer compatibility or just the first two (with the third and fourth being added automatically).

This configuration still works. I checked this evening.

Best regards,

Ty H.